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I do believe I'm one of the only people not flouncing a bitchfest about LJ at the moment. Maybe it's just because I actually work in network security, but but. Dudebros.

DDoS attacks are hard fucking shit to stop, avoid or prevent. Just sayin'.

on 2011-08-01 01:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gs-disaronno.livejournal.com

I haven't seen anything wrong with LJ. But then a lot of the people complaining seem to be the people who update 5 times a day everyday xD

on 2011-08-01 01:32 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] joules-burn.livejournal.com
It all depends on where you were at in the data line. I didn't have problems for part of the time. Others couldn't touch the site for the full amount of days. But I've seen people of all update styles screaming about leaving the site or various brands of the fuck yous, you stupid LJ losers.

But they're pretty sure that a pro-group was hired to deliver a DDoS attack to try to take the servers down. The ISP is the one that has to combat that shit, not just LJ. So I'm just durhurlololing over here.

on 2011-08-01 06:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gs-disaronno.livejournal.com
Ugh. Websites can be compromised. They're a priviledge, not a right. People can't expect them to work perfectly all the time xD

on 2011-08-01 07:00 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] joules-burn.livejournal.com
Well, the immediate argument to the privilege, not a right spiel is that a lot of people are paying for a service. And yes, they are. That's why LJ has made a business move to add extra days to everyone's subscriptions in compensation. For them, they lose money. It's a concession to respect their customers.

But a lot of people still go BWAWAAAAH I'VE LOST MY FAAAITH.

The problem is that the only way to immediately stop a DDoS attack is to immediately take the servers down entirely. Most of them involve computers of what might be infected, legitimate users. You'd be way more pissed if your comp got a virus and you were permabanned for that.

on 2011-08-01 10:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gs-disaronno.livejournal.com
Hm, that's fair enough I guess, but not everyone pays for LJ.

And you know you might spend too much time on the internet when you break down over one website malfunctioning xD They could just find something else to do for a while.

I don't even pretend to know anything about that kind of stuff lol.

on 2011-08-01 01:39 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] primusatemyleg.livejournal.com
Most of what I heard wasn't about the DDoS but that LJ took so long to actually tell us anything.

on 2011-08-01 01:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] joules-burn.livejournal.com
Meh. From what I saw, it wasn't that long. I personally see everyone throw a massive bitch fit every time anything like this happens to any site anywhere. No response is ever fast enough. Because everyone wants the flag to fly up as soon as anything happens so they aren't frustrated.

But in security, response and mitigation are far, far more important. I'll wait a day or two for them to figure the shit out as long as they don't lose my personal info. There's also often company regs and having to get permissions from other organizations to consider before making public announcements, not to mention legalities at times. Then, there's that the techs would have probably tried to take care of the problem at first to be able to say 'We had this problem, but it's fixed now, thank you for your patience!'

Most people seem to think that websites should act like your neighbor. As soon as anything happens to the server, they want an emergency text message sent straight into their brains and to cry everywhere. LJ isn't exactly Facebook in scope and don't have the same amount of personal info, so I'm not surprised that they can't mitigate the problems as fast.

And I saw reports of the DDoS attack elsewhere before LJ put it on their status page. And once it was on their status page, it also included a line that was a more simplified version of 'we know have been given clearance to disclose what's happening.'

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